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This is horribly sad and like also my favourite thing š
I couldn't keep it to myself -- I'm imagining the fishing hook shenanigans that turned Etho and Joel red, and I'm imagining on the fall that kills them the hooks hooking into his wings instead of his shirt and desperately fluttering as the ground comes up to meet him
Additionally, imagining him as he and Etho walk through the Nether Portal and burn, his instinct to fly away from danger forces his wings out only for them to singe horrifically, dotting his wings with large ashy holes, not unlike the sails of The Relationship as fire engulfed it
(I love wings in designs and I love concepts for characters upkeep and maintenance on them, for the care of them and emotional attachment/weight of wings, And How To Fuck It Up)
LOOOOOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have $4.20 to my name and my crunchyroll subscription decided to kill itself so now I canāt watch One Piece until tomorrow afternoon.
I think itās reasonable enough for me to say that Iām killing myself.
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Loki made me sad now, I just finished ep 1. TOM HIDDLESTON'S ACTING THERE. LOKI LITERALLY SEES HOW HE DIED IN INFINITY WAR. Definitely making a c.ai bot while watching ep 2
I FINALLY GOT TO WATCH LOKI EPISODE 1, IM HALFWAY THROUGH IT AHHSHSHAAHSH- whenever I hear miss minutes it's just twilight sparkle with a country accent āØļø [ik Tara strong's the va]
Hey guys, umm, so newss.... my computer kind of died......well more like surface pro...
Now everything that I drew on clip studio paint is gone :( which sucks.
Luckily I was able to get a new one, and got the program back without paying for it again, but yeah...
shoot.
The fact that what started The Haunting Of Bly Manor was Viola Lloyd and all her anger and her spite and her selfishness and her possessiveness mistaken for manifestations of love.
Viola, who was unwilling to allow her disease to take away her life so stubbornly to the point that death stopped coming to her house.
When she believed her death imminent in the near future, she made her husband vow, not to move on or to find happiness, but to store away her most valued possessions - and therefore herself - Ā and give them only to their daughter when she came of age. She remained trapped with those possessions within a trunk in the attic until the day it was opened, not by her daughter, but by her sister, who became her first victim. She was abandoned by her family for her sin, and from that point forward her rage and her belief in the unfairness of her circumstance trapped not only her but all those who died on the grounds of Bly.
The fact that Peter Quint died taken by the lady in the lake and dragged Rebecca down with him and that every aspect of their relationship was based on possession.
The fact that Dani faced the same choice but didn't even consider for one second putting Jamie's life at risk. The fact that Jamie wanted to go down with her, but Dani refused to do so. The fact that every aspect of their relationship was based on love.
And the fact that that is what broke the curse.
"People do, don't they? Mix up love and possession?" "Yeah." "I don't think that should be possible."
A big misunderstanding going on in this fandom is the idea that Stan was the one yearning for Ford while Ford was too busy hating Stan (at worst) or at least thinking he hated Stan (at best), too focused on his research and academic accomplishments to pay his repressed/heavily denied love for Stan any mind, up until Stanās sacrifice in Weirdmaggedon. Ambitious, self-centered Ford, who would be shocked at the preposterous idea that he still loved Stan deep down if, say, his post-Weirdmaggedon future self revealed it to him. āI thought I hated you, but I was wrong,ā old Ford says to Stan, remorseful... and painfully out-of-character!
Another very popular idea is that Ford genuinely values the greater good over Stan, to the point he wouldnāt have rescued Stan if their positions were reversed. This idea is so rooted in peopleās minds that when Fordās most dedicated fans attempt to defend him, they argue that he was right to be angry about being rescued from the portal because Stan was acting irresponsibly (as if Ford wouldnāt have done the same thing). This is not about anyone in particularāitās a tendency Iāve seen repeated again and again and again, in different ages of this fandom.
The gap between Stan needing Ford vs Ford needing Stan is so big in some peopleās minds that they seem to think that poor, guilty Ford ending up with Stan all alone on a boat wasnāt the best ending for him. That was just Alex trying to make a point about āfamily above allā in a show about family, teaching Ford a lesson, and rewarding Stanās unhealthy codependency...
Itās just incredible how Fordās own love and yearning towards Stan is shoved under the rug by the fans!
I understand why, of course. Ford is arguably the most complex character in Gravity Falls. His love for Stan is shown more subtly than Stanās love for him. You have to actually pay close attention, and often enough people arenāt invested enough in the Stan twinsā relationship to do so. Sometimes because theyāre more invested in the relationship of Stan and/or Ford with other characters, and this is not throwing shade, eitherāon my part, I can admit I am so invested in them that I donāt care as much for other characters, and thatās natural.
My most controversial takes here are: 1) Ford has always known he loved Stan. Yes, even at his most bitter. He just didnāt think Stan was worthy of that love. 2) Ford valued his family, including Stan, over any noble ideal of greater good. 3) Ford missed Stan and yearned for his company just as much as Stan missed Ford and yearned for his company. I have dedicated this particular meta to pointing out not all moments (that would make it longer than Tolstoyās War and Peace, just by the amount of times Ford mentions Stan in his journal) but the most telling ones re: Fordās repressed but obvious love for Stan and their implications. Iāll break it into a few different subjects that I believe drive my point across.
A good place to start as any. Stan is in literally everything Ford does, sometimes in ways so subtle that people miss it, and in ways that Ford himself would love to deny, even if it meant lying to himself. Ford is very, very sentimental, and that is reflected in his relationship with Stan through the decades, with all the different paths he takes to cling to his past and the idea of his brother.
Letās explore some examples, shall we? We donāt need to go far.
First of all, the Mystery Shack cottage, commissioned by Ford and built by Dan Corduroy according to Journal 3, is clearly based off a childhood toy he shared with Stan.
It doesnāt stop there, of course. Ford loves his boat motif decorations. (At least the boat on top of the shelf is very likely Fordās choice of dĆ©cor, and not Stanās, given that itās placed beside Fordās shrunken heads referenced in Journal 3; we know that the boat painting belongs to one of the Stan twins and not Dipper, since it was already there in Tourist Trapped as Dipper arrives. I think itās fair to assume, given the boat on top of the shelf, that it was also Fordās.)
And would you look at that, his favorite place in his beloved Gravity Falls, a town full of wondrous places full of fantastical anomalies and literally a weirdness magnet, is, for some reason, a lake. A very weird lake? A very cool lake? No, a lake that reminded him of his childhood, aka Stan (as seen by the drawing of a boat and the codified message). āThere is no other place in Gravity Falls I would rather be than the lake.ā
But that isnāt enough for Ford. He must keep, still, pictures and videos of Stan. I wonāt even focus, here, on the picture of the Pines family that Ford stares at in the beginning of his college days, despite Stan and Ford being at the very center of it and it being a visual parallel to Stanās own picture of him and his brother. That one included Filbrick and Caryn, and the speaker had just mentioned making oneās family proud. But what about the rest?
People usually focus on the overall adorableness of, say, Ford leaning his head on Stanās shoulders or Fordās apologies (again, in Journal 3) to notice the implications of what Dipper says: āFord even found an old film reel of them as kids, which he amazingly saved all these years.ā Even Dipper himself is amazed. Iāve seen people assuming that Ford had these and forgot about them, or that Caryn was the one to send him these and he simply agreed to avoid a fight (there is a tendency in this fandom to think of her as a very loving and/or affectionate mother, but we have no evidence to think so). Years later, TBoB was like, ānuh-uh, that was all Ford Pines!ā In TBoB, Ford not only does remember some of these itens, but he makes a conscious effort to hide them from Fiddleford, worried that his friend was getting ātoo closeā (to what? to the inner depths of his heart and mind, where Stanley was?) āIāve quickly re-hidden here, away from prying eyes.ā
And a picture of teenage Stan (as seen below), too! You would think he would just attach himself to the idealized version of baby Stan in his head to feed his nostalgia and completely ignore teenage Stan, the traitor, the one who destroyed his science project. But no, Ford wouldnāt be Ford if he acted consistently about Stan. The funniest thing to me about the ripped yearbook page is that it implies Ford made the conscious decision to include Stan as he ripped the page off, when he could have just focused on his own picture. And then we also have his drawing of Stan, a perfectly accurate portrayal of Stanās face as he got kicked out, implying that not only he paid an enormous amount of attention to his brother and how he looked like back then (after he closed the curtains), but that particular image was living rent free in his brain. Very vividly. With details.
Now, folks, do we have any doubt whatsoever of the power Stan had in Fordās psyche? Seeing that this is how the bedrock of Fordās mind looked like? The boat, the swing set? Iāve seen it suggested before that these items represent Fordās greatest regretsāI donāt know if I fully agree with that take, seeing as the swing set is fully intact, unlike in Stanās mind, but one thing is true: they represent what Ford deep down thinks is most important, and two of three are directly related to Stan. Even the portal, from a certain angle, is connected to Stan.
Now, another thing that I believe to be related to that, is the claim that Ford didnāt spare Stan a single tought in the many decades they went separated. But here is Ford, casually confessing that he spent the last thirty years thinking of Stan:
But back to pictures. According to Alex in the commentary of Weirdmaggedon 3: Take Back the Falls, that picture of Stan has always been in Fordās coat pocket, through all the decades, even before Billās betrayal. Thatās why itās so damaged. He was dimension hopping with it. I donāt think I even need to make any comment here, hahah.
I almost imagine if McGucket found that photo in his, you know, coat while theyāre working on the portal or something... [imitating Fiddlefordās creaky voice] āWhatās this? Whatās this here?ā And Ford says, [imitating Fordās deep, very serious voice] āOH, yes. Thatās a very important moment, thatās when I, um, first decided I wanted to be an adventurer.ā [...] There would be NO reference to... the real reason heās keeping it [...]. āOh yes, this is about, uh, science, as a horizon, as a frontier to reach towards. You know, like a boat, like a ship, like science. Itās about SCIENCE!ā
Stan Pines is very much ones of Fordās weaknesses. Ford knows this and accepts this with shocking ease. How so? Well, first of all, the nightmare he had. As he tells us about it in Journal 3, even though he attempts to make light of the situation, his hand is clearly trembling as he writes, making drops of ink splatter on the page. The climax of his nightmare, the peak, the scariest moment was when Ford realized he was not the one at risk; rather, Stan was. āI realized my hand wasnāt chasing after me at allāit was chasing after my brother, and it was going to squeeze him to death!āAnd then, may it be noticed, there was no hesitation whatsoever on Fordās part about whether to save Stan or not, nor does he try to hide his protective reaction. It was immediate and instinctive. āI tried to run to help him, but my feet were frozen.ā Itās very telling that the Dream Hipster, the nightmare inducing ghost, thought that Stanley Pines would be the most effective thing to make Ford shake in his boots. Not even, say, failing and being ridiculed by other scientists, considering how ambitious he was.
And you know who else has noticed this weakness? Bill Cipher, of course. After psychologically, emotionally, and physically abusing Ford in horrific manners (including but not limited to: forcing him to eat spiders, driving a nail into his hand, and making him wake up on the snowy roof of the Mystery Shack as a symbolic threat of forced suicide), Bill involves Stan, as the grand finale. āBut then he crossed a line.ā Why was Fordās brother that line, after everything Ford himself went through? āNo. He wouldnāt.ā Ford couldnāt even believe Billās audacity in involving Stan, even though he very much already knew Bill was as evil as evil could get. Because Bill knew, having free access to Fordās mind, how terribly important Stan was: the person Ford loved the most in the world, more than himself.
You could still argue, then, that Ford wasnāt very protective of homeless Stan. After all, how could he have allowed his brother to be homeless in the first place?
Simple: he didnāt know. Thereās a lot of things about mullet!Stan that Ford didnāt know! From canon, namely TBoB and Journal 3, we can deduce that Ford didnāt think of him as homeless, thought he was doing well for himself, living a well traveled charlatan/adventurerās life, perhaps even a friend/member of the mob:
As Stan was kicked out, he told Ford (and the rest of the family), āFine! I can make it on my own! I donāt need you! I donāt need anyone! Iāll make millions and youāll rue the day you turned your back on me!ā The way I see it, Ford took that at face value. Stan didnāt seek Ford out in those ten years, either, presumably out of a mix of pride, shame and self-hatred, so Ford could only assume Stan truly didnāt need him. Despite the many, many crossed out mentions of Stan in Journal 3, I think Ford at least tried to not let his mind linger on thoughts about Stan too much, because that hurt.
In his most recent interview, by HanaHyperfixates and ThatGFFan in 2023/2024, Alex talked about Fordās issues:
Heās aloof, and distant, and heās too perfect. And itās like, āoh! I think heās also aloof and distant from himself.ā
I think he is, uh, deeply deeply hiding from his real feelings about things, because at some point early on, he decided that he could run from hurt by achievement and by creation, and has dug that hole so deep that he has no relationships.
If he sees achievement and creation as distractions from his real feelings, no wonder Stan didnāt get a call (or a postcard) from him earlier.
We also have Fordās condescending, but protective, attitude towards Stan in TBoB as he considers asking for his help. Condescending protectiveness, if you will:
Notice how Ford briefly looks at Stan when Stan rants about his life:
A very ā¹ļø face. Heās probably surprised and concerned about what heās hearing.
And then Stan, unfortunately but understandably, starts insulting/accusing him of selfishness:
You can notice the ā¹ļø face slowly becoming š as Stan started attacking.
Again, when Ford accidentally hurts Stan by branding him:
Thatās not even ā¹ļø anymore, itās almost š©! Things would probably have deescalated and perhaps even been fixed if Stan, unfortunately but understandably, hadnāt punched Ford in the face as retaliation.
āOh, but what about old Ford kicking Stan out after everything, then?ā
I think a lot of people who talk about this moment operate under the assumption that Stan was, well, completely and thoroughly screwed if Ford followed with his original man. An old man, no place to go, no money...
But Stan did have money. A lot.
No, really, he had, per his own words, in the extra commentary of Land Before Swine:
I do have a son, Benjamin Abe Hamilton Washington. This pile of money Iāve collected over the years! Thatās my true family. Yāknow, I can sorta glue it together into the shape of a child, maybe⦠Eh, I dunno. I do my best, right? And I do haveāI do actuallyānot to brag, but I have an obscene amount of money. Uh, yāknow, all the years of collecting and etceteraāand also grifting!
Iām not defending Fordās actions here. Ford is my favorite character, but Iām not a Ford defender, hahah. You could still argue that what he did was an ungrateful, jerky move, and I would agree. Iām just against painting it as a āFord doesnāt care at all about Stanās safetyā moment. Especially because, when Ford told Stan he wanted his house back, sufficient time had already passed. Enough for Ford to change his clothes, visibly, and enough for them to have had a talk, in which Stan could have revealed this little fact about himself.
Another thing Iād like to address is that Ford doesnāt hesitate at all to save Stan when he gets into trouble and acts natural about it, which is way more that we can say for Stan (as seen by how Stan reacts when Ford is kidnapped by Probabilitor the Annoying and when Ford is turned into a golden statue by Bill):
Again, not saying that Stan wasnāt justified in not wanting to help/save Ford after Fordās blatant ungratefulness (Iām also sure he didnāt know Bill was actually torturing Ford). Not the point.
Now, back to Bill.
What I always loved about his little victory moment in Weirdmaggedon 3: Take Back the Falls is that upon surprising his enemies with his appearance, he proceeds to turn everyone into tapestry, including even Fiddleford (whom we know Ford cares a lot about!) but forces himself to spare Stan and the kids and place them inside the cages, even though they didnāt know the equation and would have zero usefulness to him. That could only be because he thought he could use them against Ford, so Stan was obviously included (instead of turned into tapestry or outright killed) for that very purpose. From a Doylist perspective, of course they couldnāt have excluded Stan, since he was one of the main characters; for the sake of character analysis, though, this is the best explanation in-universe.
That is why, when Stan-as-Ford tells Bill, āMy only condition is that you let my brother and the kids go!ā Bill easily believes him. Because he thought that it would be in-character for Ford. And Bill wouldnāt be wrong, not at all. He wouldnāt, because Ford himself was the one to tell Stan, just a moment earlier: āWe need to take his deal. Itās the only way heāll agree to save you and the kids.ā Itās blaffling to me how many fans seem to forget Fordās own words, and the fact Ford was very, very much willing to damn the whole universe (with seven billion people living on Earth at the time) to save three (3) people, including Stan. That Stan himself was the one to oppose and stop him. I think that happens because people buy Fordās facade of Cold Responsible Greater Good Guy, which couldnāt be more deceiving. At this point Iām begging you guys to look deeper!
One common misconception about Fordās characterānot only Ford, but many, many fictional characters I have had the pleasure of considering blorbosāis that people take his facade at face value and judge him based off that. Youāre falling for his bullshit. Youāre looking at Ford and seeing exactly the man he wants you to see, instead of the man he is.
Ford demonstrated being hypocritical many, many times through the show, the comics, his journal, and even TBoB. I would go so far as to say itās a Known Personality Trait of his. He chews Stanās ass for being selfish, reckless, a criminal. Then proceeds to be: selfish and completely unaware of it, ten times more reckless, and a much more dangerous kind of criminal. He reproaches Stan for risking the world for only one person, but would have done the same thing.
Now, the last point of this particular subject: Ford and the erasing of Stanās memories, which is sometimes interpreted as Ford prioritizing the greater good, or the kidsā safety, over Stan.
Dear reader, Ford erased Stanās memories because he had literally no other choice. This is what Ford said to him: āHeāll be able to take over the galaxy and maybe even worse, but at least he might let the kids free.ā Emphasis on the might, here. Might! Perhaps! Maybe! Perchance! Ford, in this line, was referring to Billās immediate threat to the kidsā livesāBill had, after all, ran after Dipper and Mabel with a terrifying threat of disassembling their molecules as their grunkles were forced to watch inside their cage, powerless to stop him. After reflecting about their whole situation, he included Stanās safety in the deal, too, now more certain than ever about his decision to sacrifice not only himself but, in his own words, āthe galaxyā (and later, āthe universe,ā as he was pretending to be Stan) to, again, perhaps (!!!) save his family. Ford had literally no guarantee Bill would follow through with his words. Given Billās track record, it was way, way more likely that he wouldnāt. Bill is a liar and a manipulator through and through, one who takes great enjoyment in peopleās suffering. Fordās suffering, specifically, above all, since TBoB painted Bill as this toxic and possessive ex obsessed with his pet scientist. What were the chances?
Even if Bill, through some miracle, did end up keeping his word, we saw Billās plans for Earth in his daydream fantasies: taking a bite off the planet, drawing a smiley face on its surface as millions died... What a guy, that Bill! If the Earth was wrecked beyond repair, where would Stan and the kids live? How would they survive among all the chaos and destruction of the literal apocalypse? With nightmarish creatures lurking in every corner? With what food, what water, what shelter? Answer: they likely wouldnāt. The probability of human survival would be abysmally low.
Ford, tragically, had no other choice but to sacrifice Stanās memories. It was that or risking the possibility of having to watch his family, including Stan, die horribly painful deaths at Billās sadistic hands or to condemn his family, including Stan, to a slower but still certain death after the entire human race perished.
I have faith that most people already knew, to some extent, that Ford never stopped loving Stan, even at his angriest. A much lower percentage of these people, I believe, know that Ford himself was very much aware of that, and not in denial at all. He never even thought he hated Stan.
First, I choose to point out how young adult Ford, still in college, with his bitterness and resentment still very fresh, admits to missing Stan. He wrote, āMISS YOUā in their Bro Code, the code he memorized and never forgot. He not only thought about Stan, which would be understandable, since all of us have intrusive thoughts, but he took the time to write it down, and in code, which would be even more difficult than just writing it in English. That requires at least some level of acceptance. You may not be able to filter your thoughts, but you are able to filter your writing.
Ford does attempt to filter his writing, I know, by crossing out a lot of lines in Journal 3, most of them about Stan. But he does not cross out all of it. He freely admits to having a nightmare about Stan, to wanting to protect Stan from the giant six-fingered hand, to having the lake as his favorite place, to missing Stan. I think that Ford, if asked about his love for Stan back then, would also freely admit to it, as well. Stan is his twin brother, so of course he loves Stan.
One thing that always caught my attention is how Ford still refers to Stan as his āfamilyā in the Journal, even after Stanās attempt to disown him. Stan makes it pretty clear that, from now on, his āfamilyā is just Mabel and Dipper:
Days after this, Ford didnāt seem to have taken this to heart, as seen by what he wrote in his Journal:
Itās way more likely than not that he IS including Stan, here. He says āthe rest of the Pines,ā instead of just āthe childrenā or āthe kidsā or āthe twins,ā and even singles out Dipper as someone he trusts (contrasted with Stan and Mabel, whom he doesnāt).
I wonder if thatās just Ford being stubborn or if he really thinks his relationship with Stan is in a somewhat better place than it actually is.
I mean, for instance, this is their swingset (symbol of their relationship) in Stanās mind:
And here it is Fordās mind:
Still ominous, but very noticeably intact.
Itās ironicāI think that Ford was aware of his own love for Stan, but not aware of how damaged their relationship was from Stanās POV.
Iāve also seen people saying that, if Stan hadnāt sacrificed himself, Ford would have continued, quote unquote, āhatingā him. Or that his happy ending with Stan was a byproduct of his guilt over the same sacrifice, and not out of a genuine desire to reconnect with Stan. According to Alexās commentary on this scene in Weirdmaggedon 3: Take Back the Falls, that isnāt true, either:
This whole sort of conclusion here isāwhat we needed to happen in this scene wasāwe needed pressure to be at the point where Stan and Ford recognize their lifelong rivalry and Ford does a sincere apology to Stan. And almost more importantly, he acknowledges Stanās intelligence. Like, he says, āyou wouldnāt have fallen for Billās nonsense,ā like, he recognizes his brother has a kind of intelligence that he doesnāt. [...] And even though itās Stan who agrees toāāIāll be the one! Erase my mind! Itās fine. Itās worth it.āālike, itās a sacrifice for both, like, Ford at this point is willing to get his brother back and has to lose him again. Like, both of them were... just doing what they have to do here.
This means that Ford was already wanting to reconnect with Stan before Stan offered to sacrifice his own memories. His comment about how Stan wouldnāt have fallen for Billās flattery wasnāt just self-reproach or some comfort to Stan, but a conscious attempt to soften things between them.
Which also means Stanās offer to sacrifice himself wasnāt actually necessary for Ford to forgive him (or switch the blame entirely, more like, and start blaming himself instead) but just came at the worst possible moment. It was too late for them, now.
Now, we arrive at the last problem, which is something Iāve seen a lot of people struggling with. How to even reconcile Fordās love for Stan, something we see hints of again and again, with his treatment of Stan?
First, this infamous line in Journal 3, which is arguably the most vicious (towards Stan) Ford ever was in canon:
Thatās probably also related to Fordās control freak tendencies. If Ford admits to himself he is not in control, that he needs help from other people, that he is really that desperate... Well, he canāt admit that, so he rationalizes his way out of that conclusion by convincing himself he would be the one doing Stan a favor (offering him the chance to prove himself to Ford), and not the other way around. He doesnāt need Stan, he doesnāt need anyone; Stan is the one who needs him and his forgiveness. (This is the moment I get the urge to reference a manga protagonist with a very similar control freak mindset, Light Yagami from Death Note. Why am I always attracted to characters with deep cogntive dissonance issues who desperately shape their own narrative to convince themselves of their full control over it? Like a moth to a flame.)
Donāt get me wrong, I do believe Ford looked down on Stanāon people in general. Thereās plenty of evidence for that in both Journal 3 and Word of God, if you count Word of God as evidence. Ford himself admits to that after Weirdmaggedon. And letās not forget what is probably the biggest elephant in the room, the 2016 TVInsider interview (if youāre nerdy enough to read such a long meta, youāre likely nerdy enough to have seen this quote already):
In terms of Stan and his brotherās conflict, we always wanted a moment where Ford saw that he was wrong. Fordās spent an entire life imagining himself as this lone solitary hero and imagining his brother as this bumbling leech. From a narrative point of view, for Ford to see Stan be the hero finally lets Ford see the true side of his brother that heās been too blinded by pride to see.
Ah, yes. Ford looking down on Stan enough to think of him as a ābumbling leech.ā To most people, this sounds way harsher than āselfish jerk,ā the term Ford himself used in Journal 3.
Fittingly enough, that was in the same interview Alex said Ford would have deserved to lose Stan:
If Stan had lost his memory for good, that would [have] provided some interesting narrative places for him and his brother to go, but ultimately the show is about the kids. Stan and his brother are meant to be a parable [that show] what can go wrong in a family relationship, [but also] show that, with hard work and sacrifice, the riff can be repaired. If Stanās memory had been fully erased, it wouldnāt punish him so much because heād be gone, but it would punish Ford, Dipper and Mabel most. Even though Ford might deserve that punishment, Dipper and Mabel do not.
The interesting thing here, though, is exactly that: losing Stan would be a punishment to Ford. Why? Because it would hurt. Why? Because Ford loved him. Enough, it seems, that he would suffer more with it than Stan himself would.
I think what confuses people so much is that they conflate love with like with admiration with trust with respect. They think of it as the same thingāa confusing, amorphous mass of positive feelings towards someone.
The way I see it, though, Dipper was someone Ford loved (considering love a deeply rooted, complex emotion), liked (felt general fondness/amiability towards), and trusted (to be capable of handling all the mystery stuff). Mabel was someone he loved (she was family), liked (she was weird and creative and pure-hearted!), but didnāt trust (due to his constant projecting; before anyone attempts do deny this, Iāll remind you that Ford himself admits in Journal 3 that Dipper was the only family member whom he had come to trust). Stan was someone he didnāt like nor trust, not anymore, certainly didnāt admire andāletās be honestābarely respected (or didnāt respect at all, depending on your point of view), but still loved with the fierce intensity of one thousand suns.
I do believe Alex is at least mindful of the difference between love and respect, as seen by his commentary on Stanās condescending love for Mabel in Land Before Swine:
But this idea that Waddles is sort of a metaphor for what Mabel loves. And Stan loves Mabel but he doesnātāhe doesnāt really think that anything she thinks is necessarily smart or right. You know, he loves like her, ah, sheās my sweet niece, but [Stanās voice] āshe doesnāt know anything.ā
In the same interview by HanaHyperfixates referenced earlier in this post, Alex revealed his view of the Stan twinsā relationship:
Those characters at seaāit was so rich. Theyāre really really funny, because they both have major major blind spots. I can kinda write stories about them as a duo forever, because you can always excuse them both getting hyped on a bad idea for their own reasons, and then you can always come up with a reason for them to disagree about it, and itās always sweet to see them come together again, because theyāre so full of themselves, but they are also both so damaged they desperately need each other.
As you can see, the codependency is genuinely mutual, not something imposed on poor, guilty Ford after Weirdmaggedon. One thing I find really interesting about Ford is his black & white mindset, the fact that the only way he knows how to be with Stan is a codependent way. Theyāre either separated and estranged or sailing completely alone on a boat for the rest of their lives. Either rivals or best friends forever. Thereās no middle ground for him.
Dipper tells us in Journal 3: āStill, itās taken about a week of intensive scrapbook therapy to get Stan fully back to himself. [...] Fordās been working at it the hardest.ā Ford was the one putting the most effort in getting Stan back. Despite all, I believe Ford is the person who loves Stan the most. Not the one who loves Stan betterāthat one would be Mabel, I believe, or Soos, who are non-judgemental and understanding. But Ford is the one who loves him with the most intensity, which is fascinating because for most of the show he doesnāt even know how to love Stan, as exemplified by his treatment of him. Too fierce, too selfish, too much of everything.