With The General Consensus Around James Potter Being “ Yeah He Was An Ass In School But He Grew Out

Seeing people hate on Argyle as I gather every scrap of positive Argyle fan content into my arms and cry over them

It's honestly so funny tho bc like other than El, Argyle was undoubtedly THE most useful member of the Cali Team in season 4.

Who saved the group from being shot at and helped them successfully escape in his pizza van?

Argyle

Who pointed out that the secret message pen was "broken"?

Argyle

Who found the track marks in the desert that they were otherwise lost in?

Argyle

Who not only thought up the pizza freezer bath solution but was able to actually get it for them?

Argyle

I JUST FIND IT SO FUNNY BC THERES SO MANY PEOPLE OUT HERE LIKE !!! EW STEROTYPICAL STUPID STONER BAD WHY IS HE EVEN HERE !!!!! AND ARGYLE IS OVER HERE SINGLEHANDEDLY CARRYING THE CALI TEAM TO NOT ONLY SURVIVAL BUT ALSO VICTORY

Also when he talks spanish it makes my stupid little latina brain happy

When Mihael Keehl shows more respect for our BAMF Naomi Misora than her own fiancé.

basically billy nation depending on what happens on friday

Only good thing to come out of Vol 2 was my beautiful man Argyle making it out of this shitshow alive and unharmed.

it’s not that Steve is “the big brother that Max deserves”. it’s that Steve had the opportunity to be there for Max in ways that Billy could not be because he was either unaware of the dangers lurking in Hawkins, was under the control of an inter-dimensional being he had no way of understanding, or was…dead.

Steve stepped up to the plate because he had the knowledge and means to do so. Max relied on him because she knew that he understood her and that she could trust him.

there is no point in Max and Steve’s friendship where either of them seems to be trying to replace or fill in for Billy. rather, Steve is present for Max in her grief. you think he didn’t know exactly what she was doing when she told him to pull into the cemetery? who else would she be visiting? he knows that this girl has been through absolute hell, and as much as he complains about babysitting, you know he would (and has!) put his life on the line for any of those kids. in that moment, he would have done anything for Max. he knows he can’t fill Billy’s shoes. he know he can’t give Max what she really wants. he can’t bring her brother back. but he can do his damnedest to protect her, to shield her from any more hurt. he is there for Max because he can be, because he loves her. he will play big brother for as long as she needs him to, because her big brother can’t physically be there for her anymore. but he can’t replace Billy, and Max clearly doesn’t want him to. she wants her brother. Steve is simply there to support her as she mourns and adjusts to a world without Billy.

no cause considering that billy didn’t knew shit, the situation at the byers house is really weird. like, a legal adult lying about his underage (basically a kid, not a teen yet) sister not being here, when she’s in fact here with him and three boys is very sketchy. and steve doesn’t have a great reputation with girls, he’s a known womanizer. and it’s the 80’s. and karen probably not the first adult that was interested in billy, he knows how a person older than you can be. he can think only abt one thing and i don’t want to say it so. kinda understand him on this one. also if i’ll see my lil brother in a situation like that i’ll be pulling out a knife not a fist 🏃🏽‍♀️

Billy Hargrove

I don’t know why my mind insists on making me sad, but I just can’t stop thinking about Max in S3 being SO in denial about Billy being the new host for the Mind Flayer or ANYTHING being off about him. Even when El, someone who knows MUCH more about the Upside Down and the Mind Flayer, claims something odd is going on with Billy, she persistently tried to rationalize all the weird things discovered.

Such as when they found ice bags in his bathtub:

Max says that they were “probably for his muscles or something [cause] he works out like a maniac”.

Even if Max really believed that it was some weird workout thing, if I found my sibling’s tub full of ice, I would have definitely been more weirded out; she was mostly dismissive about it.

Or when El said that Billy seemed wrong when they found him at Heather’s house, Max reassures in a humorous way:

“Wrong is kind of like his default, but it’s nice to know he’s not a murderer, because that would have totally sucked”

Despite seeing that Heather was indeed ok, there was still the BLOODY WHISTLE found in her brother’s room. And she was adamant that, as long as Heather didn’t seem harmed in any way, it was enough to disregard ANY suspicions of Billy doing wrong.

Or the Party points out how weird it is for Billy to be fully covered from head to toe at the pool

Max: I don’t know, he looks pretty normal to me.

Lucas: Normal? How many times have you seen him with a shirt on?

Max: I mean it’s a little weird….

Max knows Billy better than anyone in Hawkins. She KNOWS that Billy shows off his body any chance he gets. It is NOT normal to dress more conservatively out of the blue.

It is only during the Sauna Test that she couldn’t deny the fact that Billy is, without a doubt, the new host.

It is so heartbreaking because we can tell that their relationship has improved from where it was left in S2 (when she nearly crushed his nuts with a spiky baseball bat).

I can already imagine that between S2 and S3, they came to a sort of truce. Their relationship wouldn’t do a complete 180 of course. But it would be the type of truce where they would try to be less hostile towards each other, keep their tempers in check, and minimize the arguing between them. That would eventually lead to them having a mutual understanding and respect of each other.

Billy and Max share a lot of similarities (both are headstrong and outspoken) and been put in the same miserable situation (moving away from their home in California), that once they were able to put their bitterness towards each other aside, they formed a kinship and found out that, hey, maybe having this little shitbird/asshole as a sibling isn’t so bad.Their relationship was finally improving and on the path for the better.

Until the Mind Flayer put that progress to a screeching halt.

Alright, I’m done with my depressing rant.🥲

if i had a nickel for every time a creator told me that their teenage character who

grew up in a bad environment with a complicated relationship with his father,

was a bully, made mistakes,

was chosen by a great evil that wanted him to do bad things,

was afraid, wanted out but thought he didn't have anyone to turn to,

with his actions saved the heroes from certain death and showed he could have changed if given the chance,

was weak/not brave and someone who didn't deserve a full redemption, i'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?